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George Vondriska

Woodworking: The Next Generation

George Vondriska
Duration:   6  mins

George’s daughter, Ginny, spent her final semester of high school on a woodworking Work Study in George’s shop. George and Ginny take this opportunity to talk about what Ginny learned in this program, and what kind of woodworking skills she gained. Ginny talks about her favorite aspects of working in the shop, including learning how to make an electric guitar.

Why kids?
The overriding theme here is the importance of involving young people in woodworking. Not only is it rewarding for them as they gain new skills, it’s also rewarding for you as you help them grow. Ginny provides her perspective on what’s important in keeping a young person interested, and George talks about the goals he had with teaching Ginny about working in the shop.

Keep them engaged
According to Ginny one of the best ways to keep a young person engaged is through the choice of woodworking projects they work on. You may have your own agenda, but be sure to pay attention to what interests your helper if you want to keep them coming.

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Jenny and I have reached the end of her work study period from high school. Was it work study or work release? One's school, one's prison. I think it was work study. So you've seen some of the stuff she's done here in the shop and one of the things I wanted to do was talk about encouraging you to include kids or young people in your shop when you're doing woodworking.

I had a blast teaching Jenny woodworking and so I want to talk to her about what she thought of this whole thing. And I'll try to not listen to the bad part. We worked at a bunch of projects, Jenny. So just tell the folks at home kind of a general overview of what kind of stuff, not the projects but what kind of stuff were you helping with in the shop? It was a lot of like getting ready for big projects to kind of like help out with making the videos or like doing small projects as like, like a model for the videos like, hey this is what we're going to be making so we have to make it right now.

And so, ran a lot of tools, ran only a few tools. What do you remember? Names of tools that you used? Well, that's a different thing. I think we ran quite a few tools.

I mean, like it was sanding and finish, which isn't it? I don't know if we count that as a tool like table saw, Band saw, you know the works. Joiner I, I think The laser. Yep, the CNC, the Shabbat Yes, yeah. Over the course of Jenny's time in the shop one of the things I tried to do was introduce her to everything that was here, so that she'd have a good hands-on experience with the safety and with correctly using the tool.

So I don't think there's anything in here really at this point, router table planar, big sander, table saw, joiner, drill press, band saw that Jenny didn't run when she was here. Of the woodworking experience that you had was there anything that was really bad besides just working with me? Let's get that off the table right away. Other than his really crummy jokes all the time. I have to say, I really hate sanding.

It's like you're standing there and the thing is like shaking in your hands and it's, it's terrible. And you can't hear my rock music over the Sander's so. And you were, and you found it boring, right? Because there, you know, as the apprentice in the shop I will say Jenny did a lot of the sanding cause you got to start somewhere, right. So getting her to understand the importance of sanding and taking it start to finish to get a good project out of it was, I thought very important.

And then what about, so what about what really cool thing did you get to experience while you were here? Not again, not projects, but as part of the processes you sprayed lacquer, you ran the table saw you ran the CNC, you, which of those did you think was the most fun? I have to say. I really liked painting the finish cause I really like running the rag after it and they can right away see like how it's going to look quite. So when the stain was going on?

Yeah, that was always my favorite part. And Jenny is very artistic, very creative. So I can see that where, when you're finally putting the finish on and bringing out the beauty of the wood that would be a cool part. Of the projects that we worked on, well, can you remember some of the specific stuff that we did? Yeah, I remember we did the icebox was a lot of fun.

I really liked the antique kind of feel to that. We did a couple other ones but I think my favorite was definitely the guitar I made which wasn't really in work study, but I mean I made it so I'm counting it. Yeah, and then, so for adults who are considering bringing their kids or some kid into the shop, what advice from your perspective would you give to make that a good experience for the young person? I don't know, I guess be patient with them. I don't have a huge, like bunch of experience doing stuff in the shop.

So I've been, don't do something right the first time. Like don't yell at him for that and just kind of understand like, this is what you need to learn but it's okay if you want to go slow and do it. And it's okay to make a mistake or two? Yes, maybe don't give him the finished wood product to sand right away and I'll give you a practice piece first and we'll go from there. And that's, and from my perspective, interestingly enough I would agree with everything Jenny said, I think it takes a lot of patience because sometimes it's, you want to look at it and say, geez it would be so much faster if I just did this myself but then you're defeating the purpose because then you're not teaching that person how, how to do it.

And in the big picture, you know, for me, I saw it as an investment that if I get Jenny doing this stuff now she'll forever be available to help do woodworking in the shop. So being patient and then yeah and picking the right project I think too is important to get them at the right spot if you're going to tell them to hand cut dovetails on day one, you're setting them up to fail and like teaching somebody any skill you've got to do it in baby steps so that they feel that success and keep getting better and better at it. Yeah. And I really liked how, when we started out we did something I really wanted to make originally. So that was the guitar and like, if you really want to get someone into woodworking and they're not like super interested, I would always recommend like, hey, if you want to make your mother or father like a cool gift, I know father's day is coming up in a little bit and be like, hey, let's go to the shop and we can maybe cut some stuff and put together.

Cause bribes are good. Bribes always work. Yeah, and it's, Jenny's making a great point that what I want is for you to learn woodworking but I have to find some Alter- some agenda that will get you to want to learn woodworking. And that's, that's really not why we started the guitar but that kind of was the fallout from it. That's really what got Jenny started in the shop.

Alright, any other questions, answers, smart comments? I always have a smart comment somewhere. Yes, the birds are reacting outside today. They're not in the stuff like they are. It sounded like that one was.

Alright, well, for me it was a blast having Jenny here and I hope it was fun for you Yeah. and you learn something. Yeah. Alright, get a kid in your shop. You're gonna really enjoy it.

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