Comments on: Custom Cut Butterfly Joints https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/ Tue, 22 Aug 2023 18:22:48 +0000 hourly 1 By: Customer Service https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-6483107 Thu, 23 Apr 2020 01:11:03 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-6483107 In reply to Larry Sallee.

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By: Larry Sallee https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-6477842 Wed, 22 Apr 2020 03:39:02 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-6477842 When designing your butterflies, how do you determine the thickness at the waist in relation to the length and width?

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By: BOB https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4966772 Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:55:03 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4966772 INTERESTED DUTCHMAN JOINT

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By: Dorsey Marshall https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4919905 Fri, 05 Apr 2019 14:25:31 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4919905 In reply to Customer Service.

In slabs, it’s customary to stabilize cracks with either butterfly keys or full-pour epoxy. I don’t know anyone who uses both. Sort of like wearing a belt and suspenders, lol.

To answer your question, slow cure epoxy has a tenacious grip and seeps well into the surrounding grain, especially spalted areas. In my experience, epoxy is the most effective way to stabilize large cracks. That said, It’s also expensive and tricky, so I often opt for butterfly keys. I love the aesthetic, and have found them to be an excellent technique in my shop.

Cheers,
Dorsey

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By: NASH https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4848538 Fri, 15 Mar 2019 08:29:00 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4848538 In reply to Customer Service.

When I said casting epoxy resin, I was referring to pouring a 2 part resin over the entire surface filling in all the cracks. It has a stress mark down the center part of which goes all the way threw. Spalt has softened the wood a little some areas much worse than others. It’s an extremely beautiful piece. Definitely worth the challenge.

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By: Customer Service https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4835888 Tue, 12 Mar 2019 14:20:50 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4835888 In reply to g.step1993.

Dear Nash,

Thank you for your patience. In response to your question-

Really need more info. Although they say casting the finish, my guess is they mean just a heaving two part epoxy coat on the surface, not pouring over the entire surface and filling the cracks. That being said, I don’t know if resin will or won’t stabilize cracks, or of there’s a chance for the butterflies to later telegraph through epoxy. I haven’t seen any expansion/contraction issues with butterflies causing them to lose flush with the surface. It’s hard to say what effect the casting resin might have but in general I would follow the author’s advice and go with thicker butterflies.

Sincerely,

George
Woodworkers Guild of America Video Membership

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By: g.step1993 https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4823436 Sun, 10 Mar 2019 05:16:44 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4823436 I’m working on a live edge table. So far have one buttery fly that I have glued into place. I have more that I had cut out with a coping saw. Still working on my tool collection. You said you like to make them 1/3 to 1/2 of the slabs thickness. I’ve read else where the thicker they are more chance it may show above the slabs surface, depending on the time of year as it reacts to the climates changing. Slab is nearly 2″ thick.. butterfly’s are made of cherry and the slab is spalted sycamore. I plan on casting it with epoxy resin for my finish. Knowing that information, should I continue putting 1/8 to 1/4 ” thick butterfly’s or increase the size?

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By: jim10 https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4416097 Mon, 17 Dec 2018 11:32:11 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4416097 I do like the look of the butterfly keys & also your splendid explanation of the installation. However, I also like the look of clear epoxy filled holes & cracks etc. So while it may seem an overkill to do both I see no reason to not combine both methods that would enhance the ascetics and stop the crack becoming another dust receptacle! Thanks George
Regards JimT

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By: Customer Service https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4342863 Thu, 29 Nov 2018 17:16:17 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4342863 In reply to Thomas Aldrich.

Hi Thomas. I would not suggest using clamps to pull it in as this will put stress on it and it is likely to crack again in a different spot. I would use epoxy if you want to fill in the crack. If you want to just glue a butterfly joint I would use TB3.
Thanks
Paul-WWGOA

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By: Thomas Aldrich https://www.wwgoa.com/post/custom-cut-butterfly-joints/comment-page-1/#comment-4283653 Thu, 22 Nov 2018 03:40:08 +0000 http://www.wwgoa.com/?p=378#comment-4283653 I have a large salad bowl (16-18″?) of unknown species – my guess is Maple. It has an approx. 6″ long crack from the rim inward bt not directly to center. Would it be a senseless exercise to draw the sides together with clamps and glue it once bowties and slots are cut or am I begging for further or future problems? Also, would you suggest Titebond III or expoxy?

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